My Maytag MDBTTF9AWW is leaving water at the very front of the tub after draining and is leaking underneath the door. Could the problem be the bottom door seal or is it because there is some water still left after the draining?
lr9147 said:
My Maytag MDBTTF9AWW is leaving water at the very front of the tub after draining and is leaking underneath the door. Could the problem be the bottom door seal or is it because there is some water still left after the draining?
LR, Your dishwasher does not have a lower door seal, so that’s not the issue. You will want to remove the lower kick plate panel and check and make sure the dishwaher motor is not in contact with the floor under the machine. check and make sure the dishwasher is level in both directions(front to back and side to side) and properly secured to the cabinet or counter top. Then check the lower spray arm for cracked or split seams, or debris sticking out the jet openings.
There may be a minor amount of water around the pump seal in the center, and in the center of the pump the water may be as high as the top of the dome mounting screws, but there should be no more than that after a cycle, unless you have an issue with the previously mentioned checks or a restricted drain line or drain pump.
Also make sure there are no bubbles in the water during wash and/or rinse cycles.
Gene.
[CENTER]I have now removed bottom kick plate. Motor is not touching floor. Bottom wash bar is not cracked, nor do I see any debris. No bubbles were seen. I am not familiar with what to do regarding drain line, etc. Water is dripping from middle of door onto floor. Will purchase a level tomorrow and see if that is the problem. Thanks for the 2 response I have gotten so far.[/CENTER]
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[CENTER]I have now removed bottom kick plate. Motor is not touching floor. Bottom wash bar is not cracked, nor do I see any debris. No bubbles were seen. I am not familiar with what to do regarding drain line, etc. Water is dripping from middle of door onto floor. Will purchase a level tomorrow and see if that is the problem. Thanks for the 2 response I have gotten so far.[/CENTER]
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Lr., There are other checks to make, once you’ve checked and made sure the dishwasher is level, in both directions. You can disconnect the drain hose from the plumbing under the sink, fill the dishwasher and let in wash a minute or two, then drain it into a large bucket(you may want to do this a couple of times). This process usually clears any debris or partial restrictions in the drain line.
Automatic dishwasher detergent and rinse agent, should not "suds" or "foam" if used properly. If suds or foam develops inside the dishwasher, this affects the operation of the pump(s) and the washability of the dishwasher.
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Lr., There are other checks to make, once you’ve checked and made sure the dishwasher is level, in both directions. You can disconnect the drain hose from the plumbing under the sink, fill the dishwasher and let in wash a minute or two, then drain it into a large bucket(you may want to do this a couple of times). This process usually clears any debris or partial restrictions in the drain line.
Automatic dishwasher detergent and rinse agent, should not "suds" or "foam" if used properly. If suds or foam develops inside the dishwasher, this affects the operation of the pump(s) and the washability of the dishwasher.
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I have done all the things you mentioned above and everything checks out. I did find some gunk near the bottom of the door ( I suppose maybe detergent accumulation). I though it might be keeping the bottom door latch from closing tightly by forming a gap so I removed it with a damp rag. Now my problem is worse. I now have 2 steady drips instead of 1 slow drip. I see nothing around the door gaskets leaking & this model does not have a bottom door gasket. Any ideas?
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I have done all the things you mentioned above and everything checks out. I did find some gunk near the bottom of the door ( I suppose maybe detergent accumulation). I though it might be keeping the bottom door latch from closing tightly by forming a gap so I removed it with a damp rag. Now my problem is worse. I now have 2 steady drips instead of 1 slow drip. I see nothing around the door gaskets leaking & this model does not have a bottom door gasket. Any ideas?
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The "gunk" near the bottom of the door is referred to as "beaching" it’s a normal accumulation of debris, grease,undisolved detergent, etc. If there is a "heavy" accumulation, it’s a good indication of a water temperature or detergent issue.
As for checking the drain line, disconnect the end of the drain hose from the disposal or plumbing, start the dishwasher and let it run a couple of minutes, Cancel the cycle and allow the dishwasher to drain into a large bucket. You may want to do this a couple or three times.
If all checks OK, you’ll need to remove the pump cover and check the drain baffle
[part]AP4566191[/part]
in the tub, make sure the flappers(4) are not distorted or rolled up.
Though this is not a "common" issue, you may have to check the inner door liner
[part]AP4009552[/part]
To see if it is warped, and not sealing against the bottom flange of the tub.
I checked the drain line by letting it run into a bucket 3 times but found no debris. I am now trying to get to the drain baffle that you mentioned. I removed the upper wash arm & now can’t figure how to get those screws out of the filter pit to proceed. I don’t have a screw driver to fit, when I am looking at the enlarged part screen it looks like their are just round holes in the screws, no slats. I hope this will fix the problem when I figure it out. I still don’t understand why the drip got worse after I removed the beaching. If you can answer my questions about the screws, I will continue trying. Thanks
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The "gunk" near the bottom of the door is referred to as "beaching" it’s a normal accumulation of debris, grease,undisolved detergent, etc. If there is a "heavy" accumulation, it’s a good indication of a water temperature or detergent issue.
As for checking the drain line, disconnect the end of the drain hose from the disposal or plumbing, start the dishwasher and let it run a couple of minutes, Cancel the cycle and allow the dishwasher to drain into a large bucket. You may want to do this a couple or three times.
If all checks OK, you’ll need to remove the pump cover and check the drain baffle
[part]AP4566191[/part]
in the tub, make sure the flappers(4) are not distorted or rolled up.
Though this is not a "common" issue, you may have to check the inner door liner
[part]AP4009552[/part]
To see if it is warped, and not sealing against the bottom flange of the tub.
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I checked the drain line by letting it run into a bucket 3 times but found no debris. I am now trying to get to the drain baffle that you mentioned. I removed the upper wash arm & now can’t figure how to get those screws out of the filter pit to proceed. I don’t have a screw driver to fit, when I am looking at the enlarged part screen it looks like their are just round holes in the screws, no slats. I hope this will fix the problem when I figure it out. I still don’t understand why the drip got worse after I removed the beaching. If you can answer my questions about the screws, I will continue trying. Thanks
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Lr, Those would be "torx" screws that hold the filter and pressure dome in place. you’d probably want to pick up a driver and an assortment of "torx " tips at the local home improvement center or auto parts store, they’ll come in handy for other projects as well.
Thanks for the help. The last part I have removed now is the rotor. The next step are the motor seal parts. It looks like a yellow screw, not sure whaind of screw that is, I tried the torx. I am about half way to the drain baffle. Maybe if I get help with this screw, I will be much closer to the baffle. I hope im not being laughed at too much, but sometimes a girl has to ask questions, right? Thanks for any help.
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Thanks for the help. The last part I have removed now is the rotor. The next step are the motor seal parts. It looks like a yellow screw, not sure whaind of screw that is, I tried the torx. I am about half way to the drain baffle. Maybe if I get help with this screw, I will be much closer to the baffle. I hope im not being laughed at too much, but sometimes a girl has to ask questions, right? Thanks for any help.
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Lr, You’re doing fine. We’re trying to avoid removing the pump assembly from the tub, but we may have to. Once you get that #15 torx screw backed out of the impeller, and slip the impeller off the shaft you’re done, so you’re actually more like 3/4 of the way. Try this, Insert to torx tip into the screw, tap the top of the handle with a small hammer or wrench, hold the impeller with one hand and turn the screw with the other, Sometimes the "tap" breaks the screw loose from the threads and you can remove it.
I can’t get the screw to budge even after tapping. I’ll keep at it for awhile longer. Then get back at it tomorrow
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Lr, You’re doing fine. We’re trying to avoid removing the pump assembly from the tub, but we may have to. Once you get that #15 torx screw backed out of the impeller, and slip the impeller off the shaft you’re done, so you’re actually more like 3/4 of the way. Try this, Insert to torx tip into the screw, tap the top of the handle with a small hammer or wrench, hold the impeller with one hand and turn the screw with the other, Sometimes the "tap" breaks the screw loose from the threads and you can remove it.
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I hope I am not too confusing. You do know that the screw I am talking about has a plastic or rubber top? The torx doesn’t feel like it is getting hold of anything when I try to turn the screw.
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I can’t get the screw to budge even after tapping. I’ll keep at it for awhile longer. Then get back at it tomorrow
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I hope I am not too confusing. You do know that the screw I am talking about has a plastic or rubber top? The torx doesn’t feel like it is getting hold of anything when I try to turn the screw.
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Lr, Stop… We’re working in two different areas. Sounds like you’re trying to remove the lower spray arm nut ???
[part]AP4113393[/part]
The impeller screw
[part]AP4113595[/part]
Has a rubber seal under it and it can make things difficult, but nothing like you’re describing.
Tell you what, repost with an e mail address, and we can send you more information that will make things easier.
Thanks,
I am at the Motor Seal kit, part # AP4365097.
Joe,
Thanks so much for all your help, patience and encouragement. I finally got everything back together. It was quite a job, but well worth it for me, not only did I save a lot of money, which is very important to me, but I also learned a lot in the process, thanks to you. After giving my dishwasher & parts a good cleaning from the hard water/detergent residue, I just got it all back together & did a test run and it’s not leaking now!! I’m still not sure what caused the leak, I saw nothing obvious, but its not leaking! Hopefully it will stay this way.
You guys at Appliance Parts Pros are awesome, what a service! I have used you once before for my clothes dryer with good results also. I will & have highly recommended you.
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Joe,
Thanks so much for all your help, patience and encouragement. I finally got everything back together. It was quite a job, but well worth it for me, not only did I save a lot of money, which is very important to me, but I also learned a lot in the process, thanks to you. After giving my dishwasher & parts a good cleaning from the hard water/detergent residue, I just got it all back together & did a test run and it’s not leaking now!! I’m still not sure what caused the leak, I saw nothing obvious, but its not leaking! Hopefully it will stay this way.
You guys at Appliance Parts Pros are awesome, what a service! I have used you once before for my clothes dryer with good results also. I will & have highly recommended you.
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Lr,
Thanks for the update, We’re glad you stuck with it .
Thanks Again