richappy said:
Sorry for the delay, you pound on the impeller near the 1/4 inch screw, that’s where it is rusted to the shaft. Also, there is a flat on the motor shaft that you can hold with an adjustable wrench while you carefully remove the screw. I use penetrating oil on it and work it back and forth till it get loose.
Thanks Richappy. Bottom line, there’s no way to disassemble the pump from the motor without destroying that plastic impeller disk thing?
Yes, you have to bust the impeller off as it rusts to the motor shaft unless the shaft is stainless steel. Once the impeller is off, you will see the flat on the shaft and you can put the wrench on it, no need to pull the motor.
richappy said:
Yes, you have to bust the impeller off as it rusts to the motor shaft unless the shaft is stainless steel. Once the impeller is off, you will see the flat on the shaft and you can put the wrench on it, no need to pull the motor.
OK - just to be sure we’re talking about the same thing - I’m talking about a black plastic disk, which I believe is the top of the impeller - it’s got a 6-sided raised ring that surrounds the bolt I’m trying to remove? I’m attaching a pic (can’t remember if I’d shown you this before).
Thanks for all your help.
Yes, just use a sharp wood chisel on it to crack it off.
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OK - just to be sure we’re talking about the same thing - I’m talking about a black plastic disk, which I believe is the top of the impeller - it’s got a 6-sided raised ring that surrounds the bolt I’m trying to remove? I’m attaching a pic (can’t remember if I’d shown you this before).
Thanks for all your help.
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You do not need to smash the impeller.
If you have someone that can work with you, then you can undo the little bolt. Take off the steel cover from the motor at the bottom, i.e. on outside of the dishwasher. It is only 4 bolts. This then exposes the cooling fins of the motor. Your assistant can wedge a screwdriver into the fins from one side to the other. You can then work on the little bolt from inside the dishwasher. It will be tight, no doubt, so you may have to jiggle the bolt clockwise and anticlockwise alternatively. You should feel the bolt start to loosen off. Once if does, you can extract it. It is longer than you would think!
Once it is off, you can dislodge the plastic impeller with a screwdriver and remove the whole assembly, if you wish. Whilst the motor is out of the unit, run the bolt in and out of the central shaft a couple of times with vaseline. This will make it easier to re-install and easier to remove again, should you need to.
Worked for me; hope it does for you.
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With the right side cover off the bike, look at the inside end of the impeller shaft. There you will see two ground flats that are placed there so the shaft can be held by a 12mm wrench while unscrewing the impeller from the other end. I usually insert a bolt in the case backwards to provide a place for the wrench to rest against so I can hold the case down against the bench with one hand, and turn the socket on the impeller with the other.
The impeller unscrews by using a socket on the hex built into it. It’s advisable to use a six point socket to keep it from slipping. The threads are normal, right hand threads, so it unscrews counterclockwise, but it may seem very tight.
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I dont know what dishwasher you are refuring to but its not mine!
The Hex built into the top of plastic impeller could be held steady with a socket and a strap wrench to loosen fastening screw, then impeller removed by lifting up, if possable! If not then you will have to crack it, then remove, that has allready been covered earler in this post.
Thanks for providing the info to the DIY’ers!!
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I’ve gotten to the same point at the previous post. How to hold other end to remove 1/4 bolt. I need a new idea.
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Try cordless impact works great
Definitely, a cordless impact driver with a 6 point 1/4" bit is the ticket to removing the impeller bolt. Gently grip the large hex on the top of the impeller with a pair of slip joint pliers and brrrratttt the screw comes up (counter clockwise). Then using the pliers pull the wash impeller straight up. It should slide fairly easy. The tougher part after removing the strainer assembly is removing the drain impeller. This also slides on (not screwed) to the motor shaft but corrosion inevitably builds on the shaft and prevents easy sliding. Don’t try to pry it up as it could cause damage to the pump base below. This is where the chisel method as described above works great. If yours is like mine, about 10 years old, the plastic should crumble pretty effortlessly. On reassembly be a bit meticulous on removing the shaft seal that is just below the drain impeller as it will probably rip apart into it’s individual pieces, ripped rubber boot, spring and washer base.
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I recently experienced this when the pump started to whine like something was stuck in it. I noticed after taking off the spray arm assembly that the nylon mesh filters on the drain filter assembly were coming apart so lord knows what junk got through into the pump. I ordered parts (impeller repair kit and drain filter assembly) and unfortunately the filter assembly was back ordered. Without getting any notification from the vendor I was in a pickle on Friday when only one of the parts (impeller kit) arrived and I had to fix the dishwasher that weekend before I went away on business the next week. You can imagine what my wife had to say.
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Wish to remove the 1/4 screw, then replace after cleaning an obstruction. For that reason, I don’t want to crack the rubber washer. so grabbed it with a pair of channel-lock pliers. The screw came right out. No problems. I guess I need to replace the filter though, doesn’t seem like it can be cleaned.
Yes don’t crack that rubber washer other wise it will never be in its previous condition.
I purchased a Kenmore dishwasher model number 665-1593K210 and the front left hand side door leaks. Not aware of the leak, it has caused extensive mold damage to the kitchen. Other people have had a left door leak that I have read from forums. The dishwasher was purchased in Spring 2013. Anyone have any related incidence? How or what part is causing the malfunction?
The problem has been found by a certified factory tech. And parts have been ordered. Not something you think one would consider defective on a new dishwasher.
:(I purchased a Kenmore dishwasher model number 665-1593K210 and the front left hand side door leaks. Not aware of the leak, it has caused extensive mold damage to the kitchen. Other people have had a left door leak that I have read from forums. The dishwasher was purchased in Spring 2013. Anyone have any related incidence? How or what part is causing the malfunction?
The leak has been detected by a factory tech. Parts ordered.
Hey guys, found this while looking how to fix my dishwasher. I have everything apart and the spring that is part of my impeller kit is broke. I have found the replacement kit but need something answered. The 1/4 inch bolt that connects to the motor through the black plastic part comes out but also the piece it screws into comes out? Is that supposed to be permanently part of the motor and am I out of luck? I also haven’t exactly how to put this impeller kit back on once I order it but first questions first, should the part the bolt connect to come out?
Thanks
Jeff
Just incase I did a poor job of explaining, the pic below is what i am talking about. Is the piece on the left part of the motor that has broken off or am I still ok?
For all of your previous questions, here’s a great youtube link showing how to do all of this. unfortunately i’ve broken off the motor shaft I believe.’
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Hey guys, found this while looking how to fix my dishwasher. I have everything apart and the spring that is part of my impeller kit is broke. I have found the replacement kit but need something answered. The 1/4 inch bolt that connects to the motor through the black plastic part comes out but also the piece it screws into comes out? Is that supposed to be permanently part of the motor and am I out of luck? I also haven’t exactly how to put this impeller kit back on once I order it but first questions first, should the part the bolt connect to come out?
Thanks
Jeff
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Jeff,
Did these parts cause your dishwasher to leak? If so, how long ago was, or rather how old is the unit?
No, my dishwasher did not leak, i just noticed it just never sounded right after the water unit was full. When I thought it was fully filled with water, i quickly opened the door, then closed it but never heard that deep washing sound, that’s when i began taking it apart and found the part was broke off that actually makes the spinning arm go round. But to answer your question, it did not leak at all.
Broken motor shaft… We used to have techs that had a socket that would fit the 6 sided plastic "nut" on the top of the impeller that they had welded a screwdriver handle to and then a nut driver through the ratchet hole and made an easy task of this repair.